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HATE
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Posted on 07-05-12 8:21
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neerman: do you even know the meaning of Jyapu?
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grgDai
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Posted on 07-05-12 9:12
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Neerman
I am with you on this one. Jyapu is a derogatory term used to identify Newars and a newspaper should be more considerate of such derogatory ramifications. Even if it said Newar Muskan, it is still discriminatory because a muskan does not know any caste or gender. The journalist is a crap castist pig.
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HATE
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Posted on 07-05-12 10:27
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Hussain_Khan
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Posted on 07-05-12 10:36
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What if I say बाहुन कात्रो मुस्कान ? Does it affect anyone? If not, Jyapu is fine with me.
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FanTush
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:01
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Jyapu haru proudly tell themselves "Jyapu"
@hussian_khan , you can write " bahun muskan " but why are you writing "katro" ,you racist SOB ,take Katro back to yourself and your family.
@neerman , I agree your thought on " 'muskan' does not belongs to anyone and its muskan, beautiful muskan and only sick minded people like you (whoever has cultivated such ideas) differentiate such derogatory title.
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alece
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:04
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FFS!!!! jyaapu is not a derogatory term!!! n it makes no sense to write Jyapu muskan!!! so what next ? are they going to put a picture of sexy girl and say "Sexy bahun" instead of sexy blah blah .. and yes m a jyapu and if u think u would offend me by calling jyapu!! you are so wrong!!! :D
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:29
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ज्यापू अपमानजनक शब्द हैन, ज्यापू समुदाय, ज्यापू शब्द र कथन मा गर्ब गर्छन . ज्यापू मुस्कानले त्यो निश्चल मुस्कानको भाव र भंगीमामा अझ चार चाँद लगाएको छ .
बुझ्ने लाई श्रीखण्ड, नबुझ्ने लाई ...... भने जस्तै जसले ज्यापू शब्द र समुदायलाई चिनेको छैन, बुझेको छैन र जो स्वयम ज्यापू हैन .. तिनीहरुलाई पोलेको छ. नखाएको बिषले छटपट भएका छन् तिनीहरु .
जसरी भए पनि जातीय सदभाव र सामाजिक सन्तुलन खल्बल्याउन खोजें तत्वहरुलाई ज्यापू मुस्कान आपत्तिजनक लाग्ला .
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shrestha babu
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:29
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All newars are not Jyapus, only the farmers among the newars are Jyapus.
I know lot of bahun chettris refer to all Newars as jyapus and that is derogatory.
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shrestha babu
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:34
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Rahulvai you may be naive to the fact that some other castes derogatorily call every Newar a Jyapu. If you are a Newar do you have any problem when someone calls you a Jyapu if you are not a jyapu?
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:36
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Yahan aaptijanak ishthiti ra stereotyping kura k cha bhane purai newar jaati Lai "jyapu" bhani bhanthanchan jun haina.
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Rahuldai
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:37
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श्रेष्ठ बाबु तपाइँ लाई के लाग्छ कुन्नि , त्यो तपाईंको समस्या . म नेवार हुँ , नेवारी बोल्छु , नेवारीमा लेख्छु . मलाई ज्यापू भने कुनै आपत्ति छैन . किन कि ज्यापो को अर्थ मैले बुझेको छु . बरु तपाई श्रेष्ठ नै भए पनि नेवार हो कि हैन शंका लाग्छ .
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Hussain_Khan
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:41
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@ rahulbhai
I don't feel anything when someone says to me बाहुन कात्रो. Do you feel anything rahulbhai? Assume your caste is Khadgi. I call you कसाइ. Do you feel anything? Do you understand where I am going?
Your comment - "तिनीहरुलाई पोलेको छ. नखाएको बिषले छटपट भएका छन् तिनीहरु" You seem to be one self proclaimed so called Thulo jaat. Respect someone to get his respect.
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shrestha babu
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:42
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Rahulvai if you are jyapu then you won't have any problems with that word. But if you are newar and you're not jyapu, then obviously you will have problem when someone calls you jyapu.
Do you really feel superior just because you spend that extra time to type in Nepal?? It is my choice to write in english if you want to respond in nepali that's your prerogative but don't tell me that you're a better Nepali or a better Jyapu if you write in Nepali.
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kanchu!
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:45
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FYI, Jyapu is not derogatory term. There are infact many organizations that supports " Jyapu", Jyapu Samaj is one of those example. Jyapus are considered innocent and naive, hardworking newar communities and often humiliated by other so called elite classed newars, such as shreshta, shakya, tuladhars etc..but Jyapu are culturally very rich and proud communities and many of my "Jyapu" friends feel proud of that and I do feel proud about them. Maharjan, Dangol, Duwal, Prajapati, Awale, Singh (originally are jyapu but some twisted to put singh shrestha) are the common surname of "Jyapu".
Neigther they are lower casete (untouchable) as some other newar castes like Shahi, Pode and Manandhar, Karanjit etc ( pani nachalne). However, non of these should matter now. So, I see no racial connotation on above photograph, as a matter of fact photographer might have wanted to project the " Jyapu" muskan as a adorable innocent muskan.
It is unfortunate that everything we see today observe and evaluate from " racist/etchinic" mindset. Are we that divided??
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alece
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:49
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@shrestha babu!! are you saying that if a bahun calls a shrestha jyapu, you have every right to be offended ?
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shrestha babu
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Posted on 07-05-12 11:55
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alece, well of course! cus i'm not a Jyapu.
There are katro bahuns and non katro bahuns. If you call a non katro bahun as a katro bahun he will be offended too.
Does this make sense?
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alece
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Posted on 07-05-12 12:00
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well most of us(maharjan) dont consider shrestha people as newars .. since more than 80 percent of shrestha cant even speak newar or know batshit abt newari culture .. does that offend you as well ?
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kanchu!
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Posted on 07-05-12 12:02
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Mr shrestha babu, "Katro" means what you will wear when you will be put over the piles of woods and "katto" means what you are trying to imply!! Precisely, they call it " katte bahun" to humiliate all the bahuns but not all bahuns accept " katto", only poor bahun would do that. I feel rather sympathetic to those "katte" than humiliate them!!
Again being igonrant is a disease!!
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Posted on 07-05-12 12:07
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'ज्यापू' सब्द deragoratory नभएपनि यो फोटो मा सन्दर्भ राख्नु पर्ने जरुरि थिएन | 'ज्यापू समाज ' वा ज्यपुहरु लाइ चिनाउने कुनै बिसेष कार्यक्रम मा खिचिएको फोटो भए बेग्लै कुरा , तर तेस्तो केहि पनि नभनी 'ज्यापू मुस्कान' , 'बाहुन मुस्कान ' भन्नु को केहि अर्थ छैन | अर्को कुरा यी युवतीको अनुहार हेरेर यी ज्यापू नै हुन् भन्न सकिन्न |
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Posted on 07-05-12 12:08
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हुसेन खान जी ,
सलाम वालेकुम .
यहाँ ज्यापू शब्द र ज्यापू मुस्कान को कुरा भैराख्या छ . खड्गी लाइ कसाई भन्यो वा भन्यो भने के हुन्छ कुरा हैन . कुरालाई अन्तै मोडी जातीय बिभेद ल्याउने कोशिश नगर्नु भए बेश हुन्छ .
मैले आफुलाई ठुलो जात को भनेको छैन र मान्दिन पनि . नेवार हुँ , नेपाली हुँ . त्यति बुझ्नुस . जातीय बिभेदको सख्त बिरोधी पनि .
श्रेष्ठ बाबू ,
मैले तपाइँ को अंग्रेजी लेखाइ प्रति कतै टिप्पणी गरेको छु र ?? मैले त म नेवार हुँ , नेवारी बोल्ने , नेवारी लेख्ने नेवार हुँ पो भनेको . नेपाली बुझ्नु हुन्न भने मेरो के लाग्छ र ?? नेपाली मा टाइप गर्दा गर्विलो महशुश गर्छु तर तपाइँ ले भने जस्तो सुपेरियर पक्कै हैन . बरु मेरो नेपाली लेखाइ माथि अनाबश्यक इर्ष्या गर्नु भएको जस्तो लाग्यो .
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