We have a lot of debates and let us see the sajhaites view for/against maoist.
Say YES if you like maoist.
Say NO if you dont like maoist.
ONE LOGIN ONE VOTE.

HEEEEAAAAAIIIILLL NO!

Ok, I'll give a big 'Lappu' to Maoists:

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

And sure that's a NO.

PRESENT STATUS FOR MAOIST
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YES : 2
NO :14
TOTAL: 16
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Please dont do double voting. Help to eliminate double voting.

Aiight, before we go on the spree and play 'you' game; let's accept that it takes two to tango.
Fair play, rule of the game? Definitely. Let's see if we can adhere to practicing before we preach.

You call independent observers (they do give a DAMN about politics, simply because it is NOT only politics, it our country we are talking about.), "who can slip into any camp any time, figuring out how much gains the camp shifting can provide them." Is that not hypocrisy?

Listen mate - that is called, "unbiased opinion." Of course there are many who fall into the categories you presented; and then there are some who have been brainwashed in sajha, among other places; to term others in certain categories and sub categories, if other person does not ALWAYS agree with their perspectives. These are called Goro jastai siddai jotini - daya baya kehi matlab chaina. Not to forget some who can not help but ride on their own moral high ground, and walks enlightening we ignorant. :). The later ones, i.e., "I have moral, you have not" makes me smile often with their uccha bichar ;). Hehehe.

Now, while I present my claim, let me as well go on to unequivocally state that this blame game - "being in this camp or that" is started by the likes of brainwashed people, who are cynical enough not to understand that there is little good and whole lotta bad in every coteries. Precisely why, I choose to say as it is. Sabai Hariyo nai bhanum ta? Sadhai? ;)

"Rahyoo............................................................wisher."
Apart from the last statement, my feelings are no different than that of yours, which we have discussed earlier as well. I despise that as much as you do. If it pleases you, you can read your statement as mine :-).

Yes, King is one of the reasons why Maoists are in the picture. Note-- "One of the reasons."
Tyaspachi what you said bhaneko sabai hunu parcha -- I would save my breath in this one. Just incase, "hera hera kehi nabhnne" bhanla bhanera ;) - let me make it clear: NO ONE, absolutely no one should be above the constitution. It disgusts me to my bone the way they milk our taxed dough. I have had this opposing views regarding monarchy being be all and end all power with some people I know personally. However, maybe monarchy as a symbolic institution, devoid of any sweeping power, politically, militarily or constitutionally is I can live with. The reason I'm telling you this YET AGAIN is, you seem to forget that it's YOU who started terming the unbiased observers with objectionable cynicism.

In the same spirit, I decided to taunt you with Maoist sympathizer slogan. It's not funny when people portray you with what you are not, just because they disagree on principle. Is it? ;)

Thanks for the info on Khmer Rouge and Polpot. You tell me who is Maoist well wisher? Remember, your pair of eyes are not the ONLY pair that has capacity to understand and perceive what it sees. Enough said.: )

My empathy on your uncle's misfortune. Now what you could have done and did not, is up to you, and god forbid, if that happens to my loved ones, I NEED NOT adhere to your understanding. I for one would choose to blame those very hands and that very mind that are driving these animals to commit thousands of heinous crimes.

Yeuta ekdam simple udharan -- A hungry man (bhanna khojeko khane kehi nabhako) can steal, forcefully take FOODS from others to survive (preferably from others who have more); that is a crime, YES, but I can understand. BUT that VERY MAN CAN NO WAY JUSTIFY HIS DISGUSTABLE CRIMES, IF HE FORCEFULLY TAKES THE FOOD, RAPES THE WOMEN OF THE HOUSE, KILLS THE BUDA, JAWAN AND ABUSES CHILD AND TAKES HIM TO BE A MAOIST. Now my friend, there is difference between being a circumstantial bad man/woman, AND AN ABSOLUTE ANIMAL. Catch my drift?

The bottom line is I see Maoist as the main problem in the present context. IFF they come to the political main stream and fight the despot without going on the rampage; sidelining the corrupt leaderships; maybe most of the population can 'try' to forget their inhumanity. This is an opportune time, republicanism is catching up, why don't they make a decisive political movement? The answer is clear my friend; they are terrorist, dancing in the tune of few fanatics, working for their own ego trip and benefits. If they are NOT, time to prove for that is NOW.

We can go on and on, but remember this, if one point fingers first -- unjustifiably; the other person can definitely show him/her three fingers pointing at them. I presume we have to agree to disagree on who is the reason, or in my case who/what all ARE the reason/s, while refraining from categorizing/painting others what they are not.

Sincerely,
IndisGuise:).

P.S: Now I chill with a coffee mug, and please do ignore the typos and fragments. ;)

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Nepalean, my vote is NO to Maoists.

:)

''you seem to forget that it's YOU who started terming the unbiased observers with objectionable cynicism. ''

About who started, lets scroll up and ponder upon. First a plainly unbiased observation:
''I would not be surprised if the "democrates" would not consider to make themselves heard ;).... hehe after all,

1) They do not participate in propaganda :p ''

Now the greatly unbiased observation:

''2) What difference does it make? As long as they a.k.a maoists are not against their politcal ambitions. (That is until - dear maoists will have their way. :)) ''

And the independent observer goes on saying:

''After all denouncing Terrorists is NOT AS GLAMOUROUS as denouncing despot. "Amnesties" and media attention is better in the latter. ;)

With due acknowledgement of the possible error percentages and the restriction for unbiased and untampered voting; let us hear it out. ''

Democrats go for glamour and media attention. People up in the streets demanding restoration of civil rights, lift on bans on FM, freedom of speech and movement are doing that for 'pachas rupiya' ko samosha and blah blah. Am I right ? :)

Independent observers observe so independently. Khusi lagyo :)

Our independent observer harule daya baya sabai matlab garera chheu kuna joti rakheko sabai tira dekhiekai chha ;) Don't have the enthusiasm to search more poisonous stinging against the believers of democracy by independent observers. :)

Being or acting like a democrat, what I have not been able to discern is why the independent observers pick the 'democrats' to sting everywhere. While the democrats and republicans pick the King and only the King to criticize, independent observers feel very pleased with ridiculing democrats. Democrats harule independent observer and royalists birudhha narabaji gareko bhaeta kei bhannu pani thiena. Jai hoss independent observer haru ko.

Honestly speaking, I consider you a quite less independent observer (much lesser than those fully independent observers who go on calling for cutting the throats of Newyork protestors, or threatening to manhandle them, or labelling Nepali janata as Bhedas etc etc) and many a times our views have been similar on a number of issues.

Much more than that my first comment was directed mainly at those who bitch and bitch and bitch the democrats. To those who don't post a single comment without bitching democrats. You took the charge to my surprise and I responded. Hopefully, you don't consider this as a disagreement to disagree.

It's always been a pleasure to discuss with you. On top of that your humor and sarcasm adds fun to the forum, and I can't help not to appreciate you. Please carry on with your independent observations. Hope you won't mind if I couldn't concur with some of your observations. K garni, media attention na paye ni sajha ko attention painchha ki bhanni asha le kya. Samosha na khako pani ta dherai bhayo yar;)

Have fun brother. Keep on rocking :) :)

साझामा धेरै गफ गाफ हुन्छन । ति मध्य बढीले अहिलेको बर्तमान स्थिति मा आफ्ना मत अभिमत राख्नुभएको छ । संसारको बिभिन्न कुनाबाट आफ्नो देशलाई माया देखाउनु प्रशंशिय छ । सबैले आफ्नो आफ्नो बूझाइ अनुसार तर्क बितर्क उहाहरुको हेराइबाट ठिकै होला । बूझाइ फरक फरक भए पनि हाम्रो देशको स्थिति त सबैको आखामा एउटै छ - गरिबी । यसले गर्दा बिकास स्थिति संसारकै तल्लो तहमा पूगेको छ । अब त शिक्षा , स्वास्थ मात्रै होइन की सुरक्षा पनि दयनिय स्थितिमा छ । इतिहासमा यो भन्दा ठुलो सजाय जनता लाइ केहि हुने छैन । यस्तो सजाय को भागीदार हुन नेपालि जनता ले के गरेका छन र ? जनतलाइ समस्या बाट मुक्ति दिने आश्वासन दिदै राजा, पार्टि र माओबादिले जनतालाइ झन झन दु : ख दिएका छन । मलाइ जनतालाइ बढी सपना बाढ्ने माओबादि ले झन दु : ख दिएको आभास भए पनि साझाका साथिहरु को बिचार के रहेछ भनेर मैले यो भोटिङ राखेको हु । भोटको लागि सबै साझा साथिहरुलाइ धेरै धेरै धन्यबाद ।
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नेपालियन
संयुक्त राज्य अमेरिका

साझामा धेरै गफ गाफ हुन्छन । ति मध्य बढीले अहिलेको बर्तमान स्थिति मा आफ्ना मत अभिमत राख्नुभएको छ । संसारको बिभिन्न कुनाबाट आफ्नो देशलाई माया देखाउनु प्रशंशिय छ । सबैले आफ्नो आफ्नो बूझाइ अनुसार तर्क बितर्क उहाहरुको हेराइबाट ठिकै होला । बूझाइ फरक फरक भए पनि हाम्रो देशको स्थिति त सबैको आखामा एउटै छ - गरिबी । यसले गर्दा बिकास स्थिति संसारकै तल्लो तहमा पूगेको छ । अब त शिक्षा , स्वास्थ मात्रै होइन की सुरक्षा पनि दयनिय स्थितिमा छ । इतिहासमा यो भन्दा ठुलो सजाय जनता लाइ केहि हुने छैन । यस्तो सजाय को भागीदार हुन नेपालि जनता ले के गरेका छन र ? जनतलाइ समस्या बाट मुक्ति दिने आश्वासन दिदै राजा, पार्टि र माओबादिले जनतालाइ झन झन दु : ख दिएका छन । मलाइ जनतालाइ बढी सपना बाढ्ने माओबादि ले झन दु : ख दिएको आभास भए पनि साझाका साथिहरु को बिचार के रहेछ भनेर मैले यो भोटिङ राखेको हु । भोटको लागि सबै साझा साथिहरुलाइ धेरै धेरै धन्यबाद ।
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नेपालियन
संयुक्त राज्य अमेरिका

Hehehe. Hyaaaa newuser brother, let me make an effort to clarify hai ta.

First, my sarcasm and pun was intended to coax those very 'extra' democrats to vote. They ride on moral rocket launcher and throw big ideologies while ALMOST NEVER criticizing, if at all (that too they need a DVD or better still live show by UN I suppose to believe what Maoist are doing :)) to Maoists atrocities.

I have no doubt it is JUST BECAUSE Maoists concur with them in ONE thing; republicanism. Now, this one point have made them so biased that they choose (YES CHOOSE) to ignore their barbarism, while rightly criticizing at every opportunity; although sometimes it appears that they do it for the sake of it. I have no idea what made them more expert than any other Nepalese.

Thus, when they inject their ranting and raving in sajha; sometimes/oftentimes (depends) I tend to throw some antibiotics to purify their BIG NATION CHANGING theories, ideologies, which as it appears to me, is trying to make kollywood a Hollywood by one master stroke. Common now, if things were as simple as it is, but they do tickle my funny bone. ;)

Few things I learned while conversing with those self righteous coterie are (which is so small that it can be counted on finger of one had; PERHAPS, and yes you do NOT fit in to that group because more often that not, you have presented unbiased opinion -- oh by the way does that make you an independent observer as well? Hehehe. Yeuta kura ni.;))

A) They tend to take things personally; think others as lesser mortals, while making chief speaker out of someone who obviously got paid by us, and acted like "taak pare tiwari natra gotame." Yesto opportunist is their leader. Why? Publicity, mileage, connections. That's why. Natak uniharu.

B) They like rotiping jasto ghumeko ghumekai kind of discussion, while they simply fail to communicate with much rational poster who they fail to brainwash with their moral trash and counter their glorified intelligence. Maybe they are SCARED lest they appear stupid. Hehehehe;).

Now that leaves other posters with no choice but to spit venom on their OPINIONS
(Not personal); lest they get WRONG impression that people at large are actually impressed.

And regarding my "samosa and frooti" comment was for those who we see burning rubbers, throwing stones, reling bhanchne, cahkka jam garne, gaadi jalaune; in short mini-terrorists. Yes, those so called students are MINI TERRORISTS because they are terrorizing common citizens who are scared to do their daily rituals. Are you telling me those goons are fighting for democracy? Those noble acts you mentioned were possible because civil society stood up for it, not those brainless pieces of shits, who need to know that:

i) Burning rubbers, throwing stones, blocking road, disturbing daily activities, closing schools and colleges are not the chapters of the book called "Fighting for Democracy."

ii) They need real education on - respecting public property, how to protest without violence (security lai chai how NOT to incite) etc.

iii) One needs to study more and lick the balls of politicians less. They are fawking STUDENTS for Pashupati's sake. Dammit.

Why would ya have samosha and frooti; red bull ra jumbo burger dine ni ;). Hehe.

La ta mitra, one thing I like about arguing/discussing/politicking with you is, we can agree to disagree on things that we see differently. You took it upon yourself to 'give' back on something not intended to you and I did likewise. Fachyaa bhayo la. :)

IndisGuise:)

P.S: Hey, by the way, "democrats" as I mostly used here and few other places were intended as pun.:p Are we not all democrats? Afno afno tarika ma sabai democrats. Feri at least that MINI-coterie might think it's just them. LMAO, infatc that's what they already think. Hahahaha. MA ni democrat nai hu. ;). Aru ni dherai chan prabhu. :)

" I started revolution in Cuba with 12 comrades, if I need to start it again, I will start with fewer friends" - Fidel Castro

1 revolutionary = 100s ...........(Boneheads .............)

HaHAhaha Look at the situation in Cuba now. There will be more Cubans in US than CUba.

LOL.
And they swim/sail, and are almost ready to die to leave Cuba to land here.

Knock knock. I know nothing's there. :p. Wahsed wahsed baby.

Anyways,
Jai Nepal. ;). Sorry Laal salam :p

Hehehe. But one thing I gotta admit. Cubans make really good cigar. If you are foriener and if you say you selling Cuban cigars. White boys are ready to pay lotta dough.

Lal Salam old fart Turbulence

Turbulence,

When did you got back from jungle. I did not know there is net access from jungle.

Highfly, IndisGuise,

You guys brain is corrupt as American Medias. You are speaking what CNN and Fox News. Your brain can not analyse more than that you hear from corrupt media. You did not hear the news about a top republican supporting to kill Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. You only hear news about Cuban exiles in Miami. Dumbass... You have to have a big head to understand to understand all this?

No discussion with you dumbass Highfly.. I would rather play a chess game in yahoo and answering you dumb questions.

Due to technical problem I didnt see my single posting but when I opened today, there are two same posting continously. I am sorry for that.

At the end of logical conversation, anywhere ( including sajha )it is not good to end with foul language with typical nepali trend.

Highfly, IndisGuise,

You guys brain is corrupt as American Medias. You are speaking what CNN and Fox News says every evening. Your brain can not analyse more than that you hear from biased media. You did not hear the news about a top republican leader supporting to kill Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. You only hear news about Cuban exiles in Miami. Dumbass... You have to have a big head to understand all this?

No discussion with you dumbass Highfly.. I would rather play a chess game in yahoo and answering you dumb questions.

HeHeHe! Admit it Turbulence, you aint got anything. WHen you are propogaing a false statement or support which is wrong, inhumane and to the top of it all terrorists a savage beasts, you do not need to be a rocket scientist.

So what you mean about your voting. ! mao vote should equat to 12 other votes. Thats your fair system. Your mentality and your way of thinking shows your intention.

Go play a chess gami in yahoo. Thats good. Thats better instead of propogating terrorists.