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Dozen killed in army firing in Nagarkot


KOL Report

KATHMANDU, Dec 15 - At least 11 people were killed in army firing at Chundevi temple in Nagarkot, eastern outskirts of Kathmandu around 11:30 pm Wednesday night.
The Royal Nepalese Army (RNA) confirmed the incident Thursday morning and said that details were still awaited.

"The incident is very unfortunate," an RNA official told Kantipur Online.

"Casualties have been reported but we don't know the exact numbers yet," he added.

Meanwhile, state-owned radio Nepal quoting RNA spokesman Umesh Bhattarai this morning confirmed the incident.

""We are investigating the Nagarkot incident and will let the public know about it," the Radio Nepal quoted Bhattarai as saying.

details to follow. (dds)

Dudes,
Don't put the pictures that are graphic in normal kurakani threads. Open a new thread with a warning in the title and put such stuffs there. Viewers discretion should be advised.

May those innocent souls of our fellow Nepalese rest in peace!!!

Yes, if we could get rid of the two biggest dangers to nepali society, the king and the Maoists, taming or getting rid of inept and corrupt politicians should be a piece of cake, relatively. We have forever lived with division by ethnicity, caste, political beliefs, among ourselves. Now is the time to leave those differences behind, and get united for one cause and that is to bring peace in the lives of Nepalese. Nepalese people don�t deserve this kind of lives, lives similar to those of street dogs that people pelt stones to for fun.

from THT

Whodunnit
� RNA man Basudev Thapa guns down 12 and injures 19 worshippers
� Thapa gets killed
� RNA cleans site of massacre
� It raises some questions
� Who killed him?
� What provoked him to go on the rampage?
� Did he kill himself?
� Was he lynched by angry locals or did somebody (fellow soldiers) do it
� Time alone will tell, if at all


So many question sorrounding the incident, do you think it will ever get answered? I do not think so.

This is a country ruled by Shahs and Ranas, and they are people who write history. Poor villagers life have no value. Army belongs to only Rana and Shahs, if army kills some one it is poor people, if maoist kill army it is poor people. No one kills Ranas and Shahs they think they own this country, they have ruling it as their father's earning. Sometime I doubt maoist is fighting for poor people, cos they are actually supporting Rana and Shahs by killing poor people. They turture poor people.

I think time has come for us to take back all they looted from nepalese so far and kick all Rana's and Shahs out of nepal.

.......Following the incident, soldiers from the RNA School, Nagarkot, are learnt to have cleaned up the spot by morning before journalists and human rights activists reached there. However, a civil society�s group recovered a 7.62 mm shell meant for self loading rifles (SLRs). The army is yet to confirm what kind of weapon was used in the incident. It has also not clarified how an off-duty soldier got hold of a weapon.....


how can some one clean the crime scene, without investigation. Is not it tampering of evidence? Does army have answer why they cleaned it, whom were they trying to protect? This whole episode looks so fishy.....

The pics are very disturbing.. warning need to be posted..

Its indeed sad poor Nepalese innocent people loosing their lives. I am afraid Nepal is going towards GUN CULTURE, 12 years of civil war between Army and Maoist is slowly moving towards that. In army now u can feel the pressure that common man in Army who has join the army just he will get Rs. 3000 is now showing their pressure.I am farid the same army man in days will target their cheifs too.Same will happen in Maoist too they too will know what their gun culture has brought the country in to total choas.
Fell bad for the families coz its always poor common nepalese will be the target. May the departed soul rest in peace.

These kinds of incidents occurring regularly in Nepal nowadays are definitely disgusting and appalling. Moreover, they try to hide the evidences, what kind of army is this? Gyanendra Shah, being the so called head of state and holding defense ministry, should consider himself responsible for this and if he has a trace of responsibility and shame left within himself, should resign from whatever post he has assumed. But its a known fact that its never going to happen and everyone knows that this regime must be uprooted and thrown away without fearing what lies ahead. The lives of those poor people who died in Nagarkot are as valuable as the lives of those who died in the so called Royal Palace in 2001. The people who live in dilapidated huts are as 'Nepali' as those who live inside Narayanhiti. Gyanendra Shah, Paras Shah and Komal Shah have the same status of a mere Nepalese citizen as Bhagwan Tamang, Aaite Tamang and Maya Tamang who died in the incident and nothing more than that.

Very well said world map.

DEAR SAJAHA ADMINISTRATION:

PLEASE DO NOT POST THE PICTURES OF NAGARKOT. I THINK THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO TAKE FULL RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT HAS HAPPEND. AFTER ALL THEY WERE ALL POOR INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO HAD JUST GONE TO ENJOY THE FAIR.

SHAME, SHAME AND SHAME

There cant be anything more shameful than this act. The most disgusting part is how they are trying to cover it up and destroy the evidences. I wonder what the so-called "guardians of human rights" say, especially the UN-wallahs and Ian Martin & Company who bark at their highest pitch when even a Maoist cadre goes berserk but are keeping quiet at this moment. I would like to see the top army-personnels being convicted for their act of trying to cover up and destroying the evidence.

I do buy the argument that a soldier went crazy and committed this homicide but it really sucks when you come to hear things like "suspected Maoists" and things like that. In fact, I would rather appreciate if the top officials of the Nepal Army were just burnt alive. Its not only these 12 who got noticed because of their proximity to Kathmandu and the period of ceasefire by the Maoists, look at the numerous civillians they have been killing in fake "encounters".

This again proves that while being sandwitched between two nuclear powers India and China, we dont need that band of stray dogs called "royal army". Nepal should be once more declared a peace zone and an army-free nation. To see why, look at Switzerland and Costa Rica.

We don't need the revenge; we need JUSTICE. So I don't ask the killers to be hanged.

An eye for an eye makes whole world blind. --- Gandhi.

Well said shree 5.

No need to ask/(take revenge) eye for eye because they are blind.

Sheep and goats can't take revenge. It is their destiny to be butchered. Here is a comment from nepalresearch.com, "The king is the most responsible person because he is not only the commander of the army but also the chairperson of his own illegitimate government, but you can be sure that he will have no regrets about this incident of murder!"

you are right he didn't have regrets after killing his own brother and his family why will he even bother about poor people

राजा ज्ञानेन्द्र आफ्नो अल्पदृष्टि लाई धिक्कार्दै सोच्दै होला -- साला अस्ति मन्त्रीपरिषद पुन:गठन गर्दा रक्षा मन्त्री नराखेर बिजोग भयो। नभए अहिले रक्षा मन्त्रीलाई राजिनामा गराएर नैतिकता र सुशासनको भाषण ठोक्न पाईन्थ्यो। अहिले मन्त्रीपरिषदको अध्र्यक्ष आफै, रक्षा आफै संग, सेनाको अधिपति आफै। बर्बाद होला जस्तो छ।
"ए गिरी ! ए बिष्टे !! नैतिकताको नया परिभाषा लेख त एउटा।००००० के रे ? लेख्न आएन रे ?! १६ओं शताब्दितिरको कुनै इतिहास बाट चोरेर लेखे भइहाल्यो नि! मुर्खहरु !! "

They said Bashu Dev Thapa shot himself he had two gun shot wounds one in his chest and other on the head, now how is this possible?? May be hmmmm may be he first shot himself in the head and later went for the control shot in the chest OR may be he first shot himself in the chest and a control shot at the back of his head just to make sure that he doesn't survive?

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Army Men Beat up Students in Bharatpur

THT Online
Narayangarh, December 17

Army personnel beat up the students entering the premises of the Birendra Multiple Campus, Bharatpur at noon on Friday. The students had been demonstrating against the massacre of 12 civilians by the army personnel at Chihandanda, Nagarkot, in Bhaktapur.
Campus Chief LB Chhetri said that almost 200 soldiers had entered the campus premises after encircling the campus � before beating up the students. Six students were seriously injured in the incident, while six others were taken away by the army personnel. Terming the indiscriminate beating of students inside the campus premises "an act of cruelty," Chhetri said: "We condemn such acts. This should not have happened." According to the police, 15 policemen and nine students were injured in the scuffle following the students' demonstration. Police said they had arrested 22 students from the demonstration. The students torched a motorcycle at Pulchowk of Narayangarh, police said. At Pulchowk and Shahid chowk of Narayangarh, the police and the demonstrators clashed throughout the day, reports said. The police had to use teargas to tone down irate student mobs. Lieutenant Colonel Santosh Dhakal of the RNA's First Rifle Battalion said the army retaliated after some people in students' uniforms pelted stones from the Birendra Multiple Campus gate at the Barrack. "Nobody has been held under army custody. We just assisted the police," he added.

Before Nagarkot too, similar incidents happened mnay times;

- Doramba (18 alleged Maoists killed in cold blood by the army)
- Doti (Four students among 10 killed in indiscriminate firing inside a school by the army)
- Balaju, Kathmandu (Youth killed when an irate army man shoots him)
- Hetauda (Bus helper killed in �gaccidental�h firing by another army man)
- Chisapani, Khotang (Three, one of them teacher, killed by army for no fault)
- Sarlahi (Army batters two persons, forces them to dig their own grave and after pushing them into it, shoots them)
- Pandaun (Royal Nepal Army (RNA) orders villagers to vacate their homes within a week after clash with Maoists)
- Bhairahawa (Indiscriminate and paranoid firing by RNA after the Maoists opened fire and fled)
- Pokhara (Indiscriminate firing similar to that in Bhairahawa kills a student)

All these incidents have occurred since August 17, 2003

(Courtesy of the article by DAMAKANT JAYSHI in KOL)

This used to happen in panchayat days (and before that too) too. Army would go and kill peple indiscriminately in cultural programs. People haven't forgotten Piskar and Chhintang. And there were massive army operations in Rolpa and Rukum too.

Rise of maoist movement was fueled by these army operations.