can somebody help me out??

On what? Are you reincarnating? lol

Can somebody help me out??

Are you serious hushpuppy?Or were you not so pleased by the never ending logics and illogics of that other unhappy thread you had to reincarnate yourself in to this somewhat related topics that surrounds itself with life and death.If I may I have some self-discovered clues about reincarnation.I never thought I was born and I know I won't deceased.I simply took on this flesh and blood for certain period of time.My conscious self never dies it will simply migrate from one body to another as it has recently done in the form of iZen.If that is the help you were seeking?If not keep it coming.
copyrights:my conscious self

iZen, you sound like someone who has 'achieved' . Are you really? I also have this kind of feeling that I am something beyond this body, I have 'something' which is for foerever. But this doesn't come from my experience of 'achieveing', I suspect it comes from reading too much of OSHO.
Anyway, it was nice to read such a view in this thread.

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धादिङ, असोज २९ - मृत्यु संस्कार सम्पन्न गरिसकेपछि मान्छे जिउँदै घर फर्किर्र्एमा के गर्ने ?
यस्तो घटना सायदै सुनिन्छ । जिल्लाको ज्याम्ारुङ गाविस- १ भगेंरीडाँडाका लालबहादुर कार्कीको परिवारले यस्तै कल्पना गर्नै नसक्ने घटना व्यहोर्नुपर्?यो ।

काजक्रिया सम्पन्न गरिसकेको छोरो शिव कार्की जिउँदै घर फर्किएपछि लालबहादुरलेे धार्मिक परम्परानुसार घ्याम्पोबाट छोराको पुनर्जन्म गराए । त्यसपछि छोराको न्वारन र पास्नीसमेत गरियो । मृत्यु संस्कार सम्पन्न गरिसकेेको मान्छे जिउँदै फेला परेमा घ्याम्पोेबाट जन्माएर सवै विधि पूरा गरेपछि मात्र समाजले स्वीकार्ने प्रचलन गाउँघरमा अद्यापि कायमै छ ।

शिव कार्की कालीकोटको पिलीमा कार्यरत सैनिक जवान हुन्् । माओवादीले साउन २३ गते पिलीमा रहेको सैनिक वेसक्याम्पमा आक्रमण गरी ठूलो क्षति पुर्?यायो । दर्जनौदर्जन सैनिक हताहत भए भने ६० सैनिक अपहरणमा परे ।

मृतक सैनिकको शव क्षतविक्षत भएकाले चिन्न गाह्रो थियो । परिचयपत्रकै आधारमा सेनाले शिवको परिवारलाई शव बुझायो ।

भदौ २ गते लालबहादुरले शव बुझी दाहसंस्कार गरे । र छोराको काजकि्रया सबै पूरा गरियो । तर शिव कार्की मरेको नभई अपहरणमा परेका रहेछन्् । अन्तर्राष्ट्रिय रेडक्रसको रोहवर र पहलपछि शिवलगायत सबै अपहरित सैनिक मुक्त भएका थिए ।

धेरै दिनको रुवावासीपछि मृतक छोरो जिउँदै फर्किएकोमा लालबहादुरको परिवारमा अहिले अचम्मको खुसी छाएको छ ।

I know from my childhood experiences that I am not merely flesh and blood.If one looks deep inside and meditates upon that one is slowly but surely to discover that truth.Conscious self is like energy it is neither created nor destroyed it simply changes itself from one form to another.Our present self is simply its passing through.We tend to embody different selves.Good and bad too is part of that.Our conscious energy simply clothes itself sometimes what you would call good or bad selves.Conscious never dies that I have discovered.But whether our consciousness evolves while leaving back its old selves or when we die that I am meditating on.It is solely direct callings from my enthusiasm which can be not true for others.
Gautam ji,I am not "achieved".I have a long way to go.Delhi bahut door hai:).
Oh how is OSHO by the way?
iZen

iZen, I discovered OSHO one afternoon when I was utterly frustrated. I listen to or read OSHO now too when I have to show my gratitude to this beautiful existence- these beutiful mountains, the limitless sky and beautiful starsor when I need solace in this cruel world.

please elaborate?? what do you think fo the roman and egytpitan civilization are they reinvented today or reincarnated??

Sure I can help you out.
You ain't getting reincarnated, don't worry. You are not in the list.
Puppy shame shame. Hush Hush!!

Gautamji,
I have heard alot about OSHO.One of the best places that I have been to in Kathmandu was OSHO Ashram or something at Nagarjun.I am always fascinated by the beauty of nature like you are.I too finad solace in them.No I have not read much of OSHO's work.In America you hear more negative than positive things about him.Wayne Dyer was my last self-help guru.I haven't explored anything lately.
iZ

Please elaborate?? what do you think fo the roman and egytpitan civilization are they reinvented today or reincarnated?? <---Tweet wrote
Tweet where question is both deep but somewaht confusing.Well if you meant by their reincarnation in the form western civilization.Well,when you talk about western civilization my answers have no more elaboration than what gandhi had said when he was asked about his say on western civilization.His answer was simply"that would be a good idea".Yes that would be a good.The modern western civilization born from the barrel of gun..renaissance was little earlier which gave birth to enlightenment minds.Thats a completely different story.After industrial revolution west has simply used their man-made weapons to create fear among other weaker nations and ruled by it.
Like human civilizations too go through phases of mindset sometimes they are bright---sometimes mediocre and sometimes just down and hopeless.The later phase leads to dark ages in civilizations.Ours i mean the eastern civilization are sailing through dark ages at this point...so...well i donot have all the answers but this is my nutshell understanding on that matter.

thank you your highness..it was good

bu then my presentation is over..now..do you have anything more on negotiations..i am dying....why do i have to study so much??/

Ok here's the scenario: I represent Tanaka..a Japanese company who's not exactly a world leader but follows up..I build some microanalysers..and i have two major competiors mega and Midi covering Eurpoean market..

I have two small companies around Brazil to play with..i have enough money to build a plant in either but dunno if its gonna work out in the long term..cuase i am planning to export the analyssers to euproe and asia too..

So what kinda deal should i get to make the best of this silly nigger companies in Brazil??

how did the presentation go? did you talk about the reincarnation of culture and civilization?

Outsource the job to india or china, that will minimize your overhead.

I am a saint tweet not a market-analyst.So that would be someone else.

thank ya both of you...u_day..for now i 'm just glad the the presention FLEW OUT DA window....i guess i should start paying you guys for doing most of my homework....then again what are frens for??



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THANK YOU..BOW TWIST KNEEL ...THANK YOU ;p

being paid for doing homeowrk? sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttt!

How about a kiss for every ass I help you out with.

<<<<<< I have heard alot about OSHO.One of the best places that I have been to in Kathmandu was OSHO Ashram or something at Nagarjun.I am always fascinated by the beauty of nature like you are.I too finad solace in them.No I have not read much of OSHO's work.In America you hear more negative than positive things about him.Wayne Dyer was my last self-help guru.I haven't explored anything lately.
iZ >>>>>>>

That is Osho Tapoban in Nagarjun, a very beautiful and peaceful place. I have been there few times.
You may hear more negative than positive about OSHO there. There may be other reasons too, but main is that he was a very vocal opponent of modern Christianity. In fact he was vocal against modern "organized religions". His message is that religion is a purely individual experience, you can't achieve it by walking in the path that some pope or imam or priest shows. You will end going nowhere because these guys themselves dont know anything. The only thing they can do is recite some ancient verse and distort its meaning and kill your individual soul by showing you wrong way.

I read this line somewhere among OSHO discourses and was much impressed by it;
"Your religion is what you do after rituals are over."
Most of us think rituals as religion. Only rituals are different. After ritulas are finished, you can't find any difference between hindu or muslim or christian.

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His message is that religion is a purely individual experience, you can't achieve it by walking in the path that some pope or imam or priest shows.Message of -OSHO
I agree with OSHO.He is more of a libertarian than a philosopher in my limited understanding.Is it true?

The only thing they can do is recite some ancient verse and distort its meaning and kill your individual soul by showing you wrong way.
---He was really harsh on religious authority.Wasn't he?
"Your religion is what you do after rituals are over."
I agree with OSHO on that one.How about a ritualless world.Religions are formal.We individuals are not.Methinks.Following rituals blindedly make us not so rational.Whats the say Gautamji?